Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary

The Washington Post has tracked down a fellow traveler on one of Hillary's 'dangerous' trips, the comedian Sinbad, who tells a somewhat different story then Clinton has on the campaign trail.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/20 08/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.htm l

Sinbad Unloads on Hillary Clinton

Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton's self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.

Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she's taking much grief on the campaign trail.

Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.

In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"

Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. "They said there might be sniper fire," Clinton said.

Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn't remember that, either.

"I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

As you may have guessed by now, Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president. He's an Obama guy. All because of Clinton.

"What got me about Hillary was her attitude of entitlement, like he messed up her plan, like he had no reason to be there," Sinbad said. "I got angry. I actually got angry! I said, 'I will be for Obama like never before.'"

But he's less ticked off with the Clinton campaign than he is with Saturday Night Live for its Hillary-loving sketches that portray Obama as an unqualified nervous Nelly. What really bothers him is SNL's choice of actor (Fred Armisen) to play Obama.

"My problem is -- you couldn't just temporarily hire a black man to play Obama? You had to put a white man in a black face? You couldn't find a light-skinned brother to play Obama?"

The Clinton campaign doesn't seem amused by Sinbad's commentary or his recollection of the 1996 Bosnia trip as more depressing than harrowing.

Defending Clinton's characterization of her Bosnia mission, campaign spokesman Phil Singer kindly provided experts from news stories written about the trip at the time, including a Washington Post story from May 26, 1996, that said, "This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone."

Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")

Still, defending Clinton against Sinbad the refuter, Singer said, "The sad reality of what was going on in Bosnia at the time Senator Clinton traveled there as first lady has been well documented. It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"

Snarky, snarky!

By Mary Ann Akers |  March 11, 2008; 1:14 PM ET

When you're getting refuted by comedians - who were on the 'diplomatic' trip with ya - it isn't a good sign.



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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 3)

Amen.  It just goes to show the depths of the lying we'd be in store for with her as President.  Hmm, a habitual liar becoming President with a profound disrespect for the American voter?  Sounds familiar...


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by oregonkcg on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:47:12 PM EST

Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Right - because a comedian who supports the other candidate is a more reliable witness than newspaper stories and diplomatic accounts.

The only entitlement I see is out of the Obama camp who just seem outraged that Clinton won't just step aside, even though she's winning, and turn the nomination over to an unqualified candidate.


by Little Otter on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:11:43 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 1)

Actually the NYTimes at the time, said the same thing and quoted a soldier saying she should go home...and, another one saying that he was really there to see Sinbad and Crow


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by CardBoard on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:31:55 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

As opposed to the entitlement in the Clinton camp who are outraged that the candidate with the most popular votes, most delegates, and most states won't entertain a VP-ship for another candidate who is no more qualified for the job?

Most of the newspaper stories and diplomatic accounts of the Bosnian mission Sinbad is commenting out make it abundantly clear that the mission was a public-relations, entertain-the-troops tour. I've yet to see one that says otherwise that isn't either directly from the Clinton campaign or written by a Clinton insider. Anyone objective about it, especially non-US sources, indicate that any substantive negotiations were long over before Clinton set foot in Bosnia.


No Way. No How. No McCain!
by Texas Gray Wolf on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:12:03 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

By exactly what metric is Clinton "winning"?

She's losing pledged delegates.

She's losing total delegates.

She's losing total vote (even if we don't include the caucus states where we don't have actual particpant totals).

She's losing total states.

Obama is leading national tracking polls.

Obama is leading the McCain H2H match-up numbers.

By exactly what nonsense metric is "Clinton winning"?


by zonk on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 06:25:53 PM EST
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Wow Sinbad (none / 0)

He was okay...10 years ago.


by world dictator on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:08:49 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

This one's just surreal.  

Sinbad?!?!?!


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:50:19 PM EST

Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 1)

Well, he was on the trip with her and Sharyl Crow, yaknow, the all-important American cultural delegation to Bosnia, or something...


by Cycloptichorn on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:52:51 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 2)

Yep, she was the one that brought up the trip.


Oregon Hussein KCG - Hussein means: "good; small handsome one" in Arabic.
by oregonkcg on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:54:26 PM EST
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Never, ever... (2.00 / 1)

... get into a debate with a stand-up comedian. This is the land war in Asia of arguments, Mr. Singer.


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by Purplepeople on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:52:36 PM EST

Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

I get all of my political news from comedians.  Oh wait, I mean currently relevant comedians.


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 02:57:38 PM EST

Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 2)

You really are drinking the Kool-Aid.  So you discount an eyewitness to what Hillary described as a dangerous war zone because he's a comedian?  

This just in, Obama supporters are brain-eating zombies.  Spread it around.


Oregon Hussein KCG - Hussein means: "good; small handsome one" in Arabic.
by oregonkcg on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:03:45 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Do you really think he is qualified to speak on this subject?  Wow.  Just plain wow.


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:14:18 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 2)

How more qualified can you get? He was there with her!


by marcotom on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:20:27 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 2)

Gosh you are blind with anger and hatred.  He... was... THERE!  How much more qualified could you get?  It's so weird that Clinton supporters like you get under my skin more than Republicans right now.  So blind.


Oregon Hussein KCG - Hussein means: "good; small handsome one" in Arabic.
by oregonkcg on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:24:17 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

I know he was there.  But is he qualified to discuss politics?  I don't see that I am the one blind with anger and hatred here.  I am perfectly calm and have never been anything else here.  I can't say the same for someone like you.

I guess his reference to the situation being like "bloods and crips" makes him qualified to discuss the politics of the turmoil in that region.  Yeah..that's the ticket!


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:28:06 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Qualified to discuss politics? He is an American citizen....so YES!

Qualified to discuss the TRUTH? Yes, he was THERE!


by JoeCoaster on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:49:00 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Wait..he's a black comedian..he doesn't "count".

Jesus you people are so arrogant.


by amiches on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:54:20 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (1.00 / 1)

Man, maybe you should go lay down too.  I have never seen so many people get so puffed up over every little thing.  


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:55:24 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Again with the arrogance. Hillary Clinton will lose the nomination because of people like you, turning off potential supporters at every turn.


by amiches on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 05:18:59 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Ditto my puffed up little friend..


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 09:45:39 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Why are you screaming?  Maybe you should go lay down for awhile.


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:54:39 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

Oh and don't forget this:

"At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on."

Yeah he obviously read up on the situation on the plane ride over there.  LOL!


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:29:57 PM EST
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For the sake of fairness .... (none / 0)

the diarist should have boldfaced the following portion of the article as well:

Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")

I mean, if you're going to use Sinbad as your fact-checker, you should at least use all of his relevant quotes.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:06:39 PM EST

Re: For the sake of fairness .... (2.00 / 1)

So what if it was tense?

That doesn't mean that there was danger, as Clinton reported it.  

The important part of the article was bolded - in which the comedian ridiculed Clinton's assertions.


by Cycloptichorn on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:07:50 PM EST
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Stop the presses! (none / 0)

An Obama partisan ridicules Clinton's assertions!

Stay tuned for late-breaking developments!


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:14:45 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

It's entirely possible that Sinbad's and Cheryl Crow's mission to Bosnia was slightly different than Hillary Clinton's. It's also crystal clear that Sinbad had no real appreciation of the potential danger he was in, proven by his statement "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on."

Sinbad just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops. In other words, it was just show-time for him and Sheryl Crow. But, consider the following:

At a second outpost, Camp Bedrock, Mrs. Clinton visited a M.A.S.H. unit, the only full-service U.S. Army hospital in Bosnia. The three-hour tour of the frontlines of the international peacekeeping mission were filled with the gritty reality of a military operation, a far cry from traditional first lady photo opportunities, and Mrs. Clinton seemed more than comfortable with that. [CNN, 3/25/99]

A day later, the Charleston Gazette reported that "Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday. This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone."

It's clear that, in 1996, Hillary Clinton and Sinbad had vastly different missions in Bosnia, and his was just USO-type stuff. After all, he's just a comedian.

by zenful6219 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:33:20 PM EST

She took her daughter (none / 0)

either she is lying about the danger, or is a terrible parent


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by CardBoard on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:54:10 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (2.00 / 2)

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

...not to mention bringing along her teenage daughter into a "battle zone". A comedian, a singer and your teenage daughter, Hillary's A team swooping into the center of the Bosnian combat zone 'cause Bill was to scared to go! Priceless.


by hankg on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 03:59:25 PM EST

TWO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS from Sinbad (none / 0)

Before attacking Clinton, he needs to get his story straight:
Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")

by Rome890 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:01:32 PM EST

Re: TWO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS from Sinbad (none / 0)

Um, as for getting his story straight, did you even look at what the quote that you posted said?

You know, nevermind.  I'm too embarrassed for you.


by FlashStash on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:16:27 PM EST
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I appreciate your pity (none / 0)

but please, which statement by Sinbad is more accurate of his experience?

"I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"

Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")


by Rome890 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 06:06:35 PM EST
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Re: Sinbad Fact-checks Hillary (none / 0)

"We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."
Not to mention, you should also send your 16 yr old daughter? All of this is almost too funny to be true.
[Clinton campaign's spokesman campaign Phil Singer says] "It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"
Damn, we put the wrong guy up for the nomination. We should of put up the more experienced Sinbad.
by supsupsup on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 04:29:17 PM EST

A peripheral role, at best (none / 0)

I guess this means that Sheryl Crow and Sinbad have equal foreign policy experience with bringing peace to war-torn countries as Hillary.


by PD1769 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 05:32:05 PM EST


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